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POEMS: A Thing Barbie Cat hears in Country Music
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Will Dockery
2009-12-28 01:52:59 UTC
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On Dec 27, 4:28 pm, Barbara's Cat <"Where's the Sestina, Barbie?>
Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
as I recall, Barbie:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.lyrics/browse_thread/thread/3a0b45d6b9ecae8d
There's at least one good post from Barbie where she expounds on her love of Country music, and calls it poetry...
I remember a bit of that: how she'd defend her poetry writing to her
redneck friends by telling them, "Well, Hank Williams was a poet,
too." Profoundly true; probably the most such comment best she's ever
made on usenet.
Well, yeah, though she probably wouldn't dare make such a statement
today.
That post is worth reposting, where she brings in Tom T. Hall and
Merle
Haggard songs as examples of great poetry:

http://www.guitartablab.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12154

From: Barbara's Cat (***@127.0.0.1)
Subject: Re: National Poetry Month - April 29, 2004: What lovely
locomotion!
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Date: 2004-04-29 07:15:41 PST

There are so many candidates for your subject-of-the-day, how can I
choose
just one? Well, I'm going to present Tom T. Hall, one of the greatest
(IMHO)
song/poem/story writers that have ever lived. You might remember a
song he
wrote titled "Harper Vally P.T.A.", a No. 1 hit on the country music
charts
in 1968 that was sung by Jeannie C. Riley.

Here are two songs that I think are, in their own way, poetry. The
first
one, "I Love", was a No. 1 hit in 1973 (it also made the pop charts
that
same year). The other, "The Year that Clayton Delaney Died", was No. 1
in
1971.

I LOVE

I love little baby ducks,
old pick-up trucks,
slow-moving trains,
and rain.
I love little country streams,
sleep without dreams,
Sunday school in May,
and hay.
And I love you too.
I love leaves in the wind,
pictures of my friends,
birds in the world,
and squirrels.
I love coffee in a cup,
little fuzzy pups,
bourbon in a glass,
and grass.
And I love you too.
I love honest open smiles,
kisses from a child,
tomatoes on the vine,
and onions.
I love winners when they cry,
losers when they try,
music when it's good,
and life.
And I love you too.
- Tom T. Hall

THE YEAR THAT CLAYTON DELANEY DIED

I remember the year that Clayton Delaney died.
They said for the last two weeks that he suffered and cried.
It made a big impression on me, although I was a barefoot kid.
They said he got religion at the end and I'm glad that he did.

Clayton was the best guitar picker in our town.
I thought he was a hero and I used to follow Clayton around.
I often wondered why Clayton, who seemed so good to me,
never took his guitar and made it down in Tenn-o-see.

Well, Daddy said he drank a lot, but I could never understand.
I knew he used to pick up in Ohio with a five-piece band.
Clayton used to tell me, "Son you better put that old guitar away,
there ain't no money in it, it'll lead you to an early grave."

I guess if I'd admit it, Clayton taught me how to drink booze.
I can see him half-stoned a-pickin' out the lovesick blues.
When Clayton died I made him a promise, I was gonna carry on somehow
I'd give a hundred dollars if he could only see me now.

I remember the year that Clayton Delaney died.
Nobody ever knew it but I went out in the woods and I cried.
Well, I know there's a lotta big preachers that know a lot more than
I
do, but it could be that the good Lord likes a little pickin' too.
Yeah, I remember the year that Clayton Delaney died.
- Tom T. Hall

I hope you enjoyed this post.
Cm~
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Oh, yeah... of course "we" did, Barbie.

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Peter J Ross
2010-01-01 19:58:14 UTC
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In rec.arts.poems on Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:52:59 -0800 (PST), Will
Post by Will Dockery
On Dec 27, 4:28 pm, Barbara's Cat <"Where's the Sestina, Barbie?>
Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
So what's wrong with Hank Williams's work, in your opinion, Dreckery?

He certainly has as much claim to be considered a poet as Cash, Dylan
or Cohen, and far more claim than talentless droners like you.

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Post by Will Dockery
- Tom T. Hall
I know nothing about Tom T Hall, but Cat's post has encouraged me to
take an interest in him. The quoted somg lyrics are certainly 100,000%
better than any of yours.
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Will Dockery
2010-01-01 21:27:49 UTC
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On Dec 27, 4:28 pm, Barbara's Cat <"Where's the Sestina, Barbie?>
Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
So what's wrong with Hank Williams's work
I never wrote that there was anything wrong with HW's work, PJR.

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Peter J Ross
2010-01-05 22:01:47 UTC
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In rec.arts.poems on Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:27:49 -0800 (PST), Will
Post by Will Dockery
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Post by Will Dockery
On Dec 27, 4:28 pm, Barbara's Cat <"Where's the Sestina, Barbie?>
Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
So what's wrong with Hank Williams's work
I never wrote that there was anything wrong with HW's work, PJR.
So you agree with Cat, while presenting the opinion you agree with as
if it were ludicrous.

Well, I can understand why you might suspect that any opinion you
agree with is likely to be ludicrous.
--
PJR :-)

<http://pjr.lasnobberia.net/verse/>
Will Dockery
2010-01-05 22:24:19 UTC
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Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
So what's wrong with Hank Williams's work
I never wrote that there was anything wrong with HW's work, PJR.
So you agree with Cat
I didn't write that I did.

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New poetry & music recordings by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Peter J Ross
2010-01-05 22:31:07 UTC
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In rec.arts.poems on Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:24:19 -0800 (PST), Will
Post by Will Dockery
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Post by Will Dockery
Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
So what's wrong with Hank Williams's work
I never wrote that there was anything wrong with HW's work, PJR.
So you agree with Cat
I didn't write that I did.
So you agree with Cat.

Is it the use of a disyllabic verb that's confusing you?

(This could take some time, folks.)
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PJR :-)

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Will Dockery
2010-01-05 22:37:06 UTC
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Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
So what's wrong with Hank Williams's work
I never wrote that there was anything wrong with HW's work, PJR.
So you agree with Cat
I didn't write that I did.
So you agree with Cat.
Perhaps, perhaps not.

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Peter J Ross
2010-01-05 22:42:20 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:37:06 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Peter J Ross
Post by Will Dockery
Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
So what's wrong with Hank Williams's work
I never wrote that there was anything wrong with HW's work, PJR.
So you agree with Cat
I didn't write that I did.
So you agree with Cat.
Perhaps, perhaps not.
So you may or may not agree with what you wrote a few minutes ago.
--
PJR :-)

<http://pjr.lasnobberia.net/verse/>
Will Dockery
2010-01-05 22:47:24 UTC
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Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
So what's wrong with Hank Williams's work
I never wrote that there was anything wrong with HW's work, PJR.
So you agree with Cat
I didn't write that I did.
So you agree with Cat.
Perhaps, perhaps not.
So you may or may not agree
That's right.

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George Dance
2010-01-06 01:11:23 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In rec.arts.poems on Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:27:49 -0800 (PST), Will
Post by Will Dockery
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Post by Will Dockery
On Dec 27, 4:28 pm, Barbara's Cat <"Where's the Sestina, Barbie?>
Cry tears into their beers.
That's right, you were the one who once wrote "Hank was a poet, too.",
So what's wrong with Hank Williams's work
I never wrote that there was anything wrong with HW's work, PJR.
So you agree with Cat, while presenting the opinion you agree with as
if it were ludicrous.
Don't be stupid. (At least try not to.) It's quite possible to like
Hank Williams' songs without considering them "poetry." It's even
possible to like Tom T. Hall's songs without considering them
"poetry." Understand?
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Well, I can understand why you might suspect that any opinion you
agree with is likely to be ludicrous.
--
PJR :-)
<http://pjr.lasnobberia.net/verse/>
Will Dockery
2010-01-06 03:26:49 UTC
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Don't be stupid. (At least try not to.) It's quite possible to like
Hank Williams' songs without considering them "poetry."  It's even
possible to like Tom T. Hall's songs without considering them
"poetry." Understand?
The same could even be said about other great songwriters, perhaps.

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George Dance
2010-01-06 03:33:13 UTC
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Don't be stupid. (At least try not to.) It's quite possible to like
Hank Williams' songs without considering them "poetry."  It's even
possible to like Tom T. Hall's songs without considering them
"poetry." Understand?
The same could even be said about other great songwriters, perhaps.
Agreed. Some people even say it about Jim Morrison. 8D
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Will Dockery
2010-01-06 08:34:28 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Don't be stupid. (At least try not to.) It's quite possible to like
Hank Williams' songs without considering them "poetry."  It's even
possible to like Tom T. Hall's songs without considering them
"poetry." Understand?
The same could even be said about other great songwriters, perhaps.
Agreed. Some people even say it about Jim Morrison. 8D
Hmmm... deja vu...

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